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Singularity RPG Moderators ([personal profile] singularitymods) wrote in [community profile] singularityooc2012-03-16 06:45 pm

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT -- AC POLICY

First, this is a reminder that Activity Check begins in two weeks on April 1st, so now is the time to start rounding up posts, or make them if you're falling short. AC is one network or log post with comments, or 15 comments in another person's post. For this round all activity since moving to DW counts, so we don't anticipate any reasonably active players having trouble with it. Characters accepted in March are exempt.

Currently, we have a lenient activity check, and we loosened it even more for the move, in anticipation of complications which, happily, didn't occur. Our AC schedule worked just fine when we were a smaller, slower game, but that's no longer the case. Space Prom went to 3,000 comments in a week, and we are facing the fact that our little game is all grown up and ready to borrow the keys and wreck the car.

We have no intention of instituting an unreasonable AC, but we do need to make it more stringent to keep inactive players from affecting their casts and other CR, and there is plenty of room to tighten things up without AC becoming unmanageable. We are currently leaning toward keeping AC bimonthly, but increasing the total number of posts/comments required, probably with a mix-'n'-match system that will accommodate various play styles. However, we'd like your input before making any changes, hence this post. What would you like to see out of a new AC policy? What would you not like to see? We know people would like to have a purge list posted at the end of the AC period. Anything else?

Any changes will not affect this AC round.
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[personal profile] spaceracist 2012-03-16 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding the purge list at the end of AC, and if possible could you have both character name and journal name in the list?

As far as AC, I'd really hate to see more than two posts/logs in two months required, though I'd be okay with something like three pieces of activity that can be post/log/comments. Just as long as they don't have to all be posts.
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[personal profile] soundslikeafuckingkid 2012-03-17 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thirding the purge list!

Seconding(?) the not increasing post count, but possibly increasing pieces of activity like comments.
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[personal profile] soundslikeafuckingkid 2012-03-16 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Since I have a quick chance to shove an opinion in here before I get driving again, I am against increasing a number of entries (I.e. 3 entries a month) or having a strict weekly activity. I know Sing doesn't do either of these but I just want to throw this out before I possibly fall behind.

+increasing entry number => I sometimes have problems thinking of posts on my own, but I find it easier to have characters respond to something happening than be directly posting to the network (esp with CT, who's not likely to post to the network pretty much at all, but will respond to thinks that interest her). I think the 15 comments ob someone else's entry is a great avenue for those kinds of characters.

+strict weekly activity => Again, I know Sing doesn't do this, but I've been in a game with a strict you must have this many consecutive comments in a week so if I had a bad week or was running slower for any reason, I had to call. Iatus for anything. I think a monthly AC is a good standard across the board with grace if someone had a particularly shitty/busy month.
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[personal profile] theuserabides 2012-03-16 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If we went to a weekly AC requirement, I would pitch a fit.

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[personal profile] twotailmechanic 2012-03-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
How the hell can anyone deal with a weekly AC requirement? I would fail at that since I do other things besides RP a lot of the time. Hell, I remember when I was (very) briefly in [community profile] luceti I failed the AC because I couldn't make enough comments for the month that counted. So yeah I would have a major problem with a weekly one.

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[personal profile] articletwelve 2012-03-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a purge list would be awesome, and seconding Anarin on having it be both character name/journal so we know who's who.

My preference is just that the required activity isn't one specific type, i.e. one post and one log per AC period, since some characters either don't want to post to the network or don't have much to say, but are still active through comments. I think if we stick with bimonthly, at the very least the amount of activity should probably be doubled (i.e. two posts/two logs/two 15-comment threads/any mix of those per AC period), but so long as there are options I'm not too concerned with any particular breakdown.
Edited (readability) 2012-03-16 23:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] astrometry 2012-03-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really worried about making it monthly -- not because I don't think that I could make it, but because Singularity has always been the game that, should I have an off month (which happens, especially since all the recent anon drama) then I don't have to worry about it because I've probably already done enough.

Though as long as it's no more than two things every other month, I think it would still be fine, especially if it doesn't have to be posts.

ALSO THIRDING THE PURGE POST.
Edited 2012-03-16 23:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] slenderbot 2012-03-16 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
SLIDES IN HERE.


My personal preference as a player falls in line with keeping it bimonthly with about 2-3 things of mix-and-match, so definitely some mod agreement here on that feeling!

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[personal profile] justamobster 2012-03-16 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the idea of moving to monthly but keeping the requirements the same (1 post/log/15 comments/etc) and having a purge list. I've been in games with that expectation in terms of activity and found it reasonable.
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[personal profile] twotailmechanic 2012-03-16 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I would suggest doing a minimum of 20 comments in either a network post or a log post. Granted, it might not work for this game like it does in DDD, but I'd thought I throw an idea out there. 15 could work too if 20 seems too much.

Yes, purge list please. Especially with both character name and journal name.
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[personal profile] twotailmechanic 2012-03-16 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I forgot to say it should be bi-monthly (like every other month).
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[personal profile] a_perfect_end 2012-03-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Just personally, I find it easier to handle increased post requirement vs. comment-count.

As the player of a jerk character, there are times when my entire goal is to get the other guy to hang up in about ten comments or less, and those threads would not, technically, even count toward present AC requirements (15 each = 30 comments in a 'perfect', ideal AC-clearing thread).

Otherwise, I'm cool with the things as presented.

The purge list is a great idea!
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[personal profile] theuserabides 2012-03-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You can currently provide any number of threads as long as the comments add up to 15. Though if you provide 15 one-comment threads, we might perhaps want to have a talk with you.

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[personal profile] fuckinghubble 2012-03-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Also chiming in here and saying that the purge list is okay, monthly activity requirements, as they are, is fine. I am also someone who has an easier time tagging posts (which sometimes usually wind up breaking the page) and logs, than it is to make a network post for myself. So yeah, I'd like to keep it that way.
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[personal profile] im_apimp 2012-03-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes to the purge post! It makes it easier for CR to know who was dropped if they don't have them on plurk/talk to them regularly/what have you.

Also, I'm good with things being bimonthly with multiple things as well. I just have a question: does the 15+ comments apply to both log and network comments?
Edited 2012-03-16 23:22 (UTC)
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[personal profile] articletwelve 2012-03-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, I meant to ask that -- 15's a lot easier to hit on a network post, usually, so I'm not sure if logs just count for participating at all or if they need x number of comments. (I... cannot remember what it is now. :|a)

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[personal profile] doesthemath 2012-03-16 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Purge list sounds great.

As for the AC...I think that if you're increasing the amount of activity required, making it possible to mix and match things would allow for greater flexibility with everyone's RPing styles.

Keeping the two-month period and increasing the amount of posts/logs/threads seems like it might also work best for people who tag at a more leisurely pace.

[personal profile] bondedgryphon 2012-03-17 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^^^^

All of this right here.

<3
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[personal profile] thecarisboring 2012-03-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, now that a few things have been clarified for me: Basically, what Mari said.

I'm okay with keeping it bimonthly and increasing the total number of posts/comments required as long as we can still mix and match threads to an extent to get the right number of comments. (I honestly didn't realize we could do that and I think it is wonderful since I have so much trouble trying to drag comment threads out to hit 15.)

And a purge list is a great idea.
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[personal profile] scratchback 2012-03-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Voting for yes to purge list, and bimonthly AC with greater requirements. It's not really that hard to hit one thing a month with each character.
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[personal profile] enslavedslayer 2012-03-17 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I was the one that brought the purge list up on Plurk in the first place, but consider this my agreement.

I could easily see doubling the AC, mix and match. Would be easy still, but at the same time, would mean it's harder to drift through AC. (Actually, wouldn't care if it were tripled, personally, with it bimonthly but that's me. Currently have 3 characters in a monthly 2 post AC game as well as my 2 here.)

[personal profile] breakstoys 2012-03-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Voting for a purge list too. Certainly don't want to see only one type of activity count for AC (only posts, only logs, etc..). I've got a character who is extremely apathetic, not likely to bother posting to a network of strangers she cares nothing for and has no CR - I'm probably going to be passing AC from mixing and matching random comments for a while. Lot of AC checks don't take into account characters who are hard to get to post, hoping Sing avoids that trap.
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[personal profile] hisoldgirl 2012-03-17 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes to the purge list! /adds two cents

And I'm fine with an increase in required activity over two months so long as we still have the option to mix and match. Slightly more stringent AC seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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[personal profile] brbvirmire 2012-03-17 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yet another +1 to the purge list.

I have thought for a while that the requirements are a little too lenient for a bimonthly check so yeah, upping the requirements a little is fine by me as long as we can still mix and match.

I like not having to stress out about it if I go through an off period too, though, which is why it's great that it is bimonthly.
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[personal profile] slamacow 2012-03-17 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think we should have daily AC requirements that include a post with every single one of our characters, threads of 100+ comments, and a log post every day that breaks 1000 comments. What's more, every player should have to app a new character every single app period in order to stay in the game. Any player who fails to meet these requirements should be immediately banned from the game.



























No but seriously, purge list and bimonthly multi-thread requirements sounds good :|b
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[personal profile] fairygodtroll 2012-03-17 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG SECONDED

PEN FOR GAME PRESIDENT!

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[personal profile] curbstomping 2012-03-17 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
+1 on purge list.

as for the AC requirements. what I love about sing's AC is the fact that it has bimonthly activity check, which somehow is more managable for me. like someone up there said, it allows you to have some days / weeks off in the AC period without having to stress about making the AC. perfectly up for raising the requirements to 3 pieces of mix-'n'-match activity. as I understand it it doesn't have to be just three but could be 5 pieces of AC just so that the amount of comments sums up to the requirement? that's something that should clear in how the requirements on the AC page are worded. perhaps it should just say how many comments over all there need to be, that they need to be from three different links and for how many comments a network post counts? if ... that makes sense. x_x
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[personal profile] hammerhanded 2012-03-17 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK If it's bi-monthly I'd rather it be something like

Oh here's 4 options

> a network entry
> a log entry
> participation in a log (15< comments belonging to you)
> participation in a network entry (15< comments belonging to you)

Use two of those to prove you've been active since the last AC and you're good.

Or a monthly one with 1 of those 4 as proof of AC, since it pretty much amounts to the same thing anyway.

Those seem like the easiest solutions to me.
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[personal profile] hammerhanded 2012-03-17 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
oh and yeah purge list sounds good
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[personal profile] hybridharvester 2012-03-18 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
In favor of purge lists. Neutral on increasing the amount of activity required, but if you do, in favor of the mix and match thing.